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QUESTION: I would like to understand the third maxim on the Temple of Apollo at Delphi.
"Nothing in excess" and "Know thyself" are clear to me, but the third is often
translated as either, "pledge and mischief is nigh," or "commitment brings
misfortune" or "go bail and woe is at hand." Is there a consensus on it's meaning
and, if so, what is it?

ANSWER: Hello!

This is a tough one. I hope I'll make myself clear enough.


Those who attempted to explain the meaning of the phrase supported that Chilon refers to economic affairs and advises us that if we become guarantors for a third person then we will be destroyed. Others suggest that pledge (or guarantee) refers to the word that is given at engagements. But we are dealing with a Delphic maxim here. Also, Plato mentions this maxim in "Charmides", but no doubt Plato is not interested in economic or other transactions of his fellow-citizens. "Charmidis's" subject is prudence as a virtue. And if Plato is not interested in economy, then why should Chilon be? Chilon, as a tragic person, just wanted to honour Apollo, so he offered him in maxims his point of view on this world through his own wisdom. And this is because the third maxim contains all the tragicalness of our existence! "Pledge, and then you'll meet misfortune". Misfortune befalls as an equalising power against hubris. And one would ask, what is considered as hybris here? How can you assure or guarantee that you know something? Can man ensure sth with certainty for themselves and the universe? Can they guarantee that an absolute knowledge does exist? Whatever assurance they attempt to give, this will immediately lead knowledge into destruction. For, by reducing knowledge to the level of dogma, man automatically guarantees their own death, but the ontological death, as man will have killed for one more time the Sphinx, the "Question", condemning themselves to living dead! The third Delphic maxim functions argumentatively (or dialectically) with the other two and constitutes the ALL. If one affirms that they possess the "know thyself" along with the "nothing in excess", then at the same time the "pledge and mischief is nigh" is committed. The third exists for the other two; without the third maxim the other two do not complete the circle, whereas the third one constitutes its beginning and its end. The tragicality of the three Delphic maxims reveals the GAME that takes place in Delphi, in the Earth's Navel that philosophically can be compared with the Socratic Ignorance, poetically with the Blindness of Oedipous and scientifically with the Uncertainty Principle.

I hope that my English was comprehensible enough for you.

Best wishes,
Michael

---------- FOLLOW-UP ----------

QUESTION: Thank you for that fascinating answer to my question.  I hadn't considered the
Sophist angle to the 3  maxims.  What I'm curious about now is why is the third
maxim is so widely misunderstood?  Can you give me a literal translation of it
and then your personal translation?  All I could get from the maxim was "near to
mischief."  What do you feel is actually that which is "near" to the mischief?


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Hello again!

Actually I am not sure if the 3rd maxim is widely misunderstood. Personally I've read this explanation from Greek professors and it sounds philosophically correct (though I am not that good at philosophy). The word for word translation is "guarantee to someone and you will be destroyed", but the needs for its meaning make it something like what you have just said, or more ironically "don't try to show that you know everyhting, because...". It sounds like a matter of setting an order to this world or to restrict knowledge so that there is enough space for the unknown to take place, otherwise it is called hubris. I cannot go further from that because it is outside my expertise, and also all these are completely personal.

Best wishes,
Michael
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